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The London Daygame Model is a strategy to meet women in the street, usually during the daytime and was invented by a group of guys located in the U.K. It’s commonly known that ”Yad” was the man who originally created this style of daygame, although I cannot confirm this.
Today I’m going to give my thoughts on the London Daygame model and why I don’t think you should be using this method. If you are using the London Daygame model and have learned from personal experience that it doesn’t work and you are looking for something new, then come do some coaching with me
- Yad Stop
- Science behind LDM
- Daygame Blueprint (canned lines)
- High Flake Rate, Fake Numbers etc
The Yad Stop
More commonly known as a daygame stop these days, I still like to give credit where credit is due and refer to it as ”The Yad Stop”.
When you first get into daygame, you’ll notice how often women just keep walking past you, even after you’ve said ”hello”. This can be quite frustrating to men who get into game and it makes you feel as if you are invisible. In my opinion, it’s just how it is and becoming more aggressive is not the answer. Although the yad stop was (in my opinion) created to increase the amount of girls who stop and pay you attention.
Otherwise known as ”hooking” or ”hook” which means she stopped to talk to you.
How it works is : She must be walking and walking directly in front of you. Your goal is to run in a semi circle from behind the girl to directly in front of her (approximately 180 degrees) and stop in order to impede her path, so she has no other option than to stop. If you witness this with your own eyes, it can be a little shocking.
The problem with the London Daygame model, is that it’s quite obvious that a strange man is jumping in front of a girl, who he doesn’t know. It’s not a very smooth way of doing daygame to be honest.
Check out the video below, where you can see how the Yad stop looks in real life.
Science – Fear Can Cause Arousal in Women
The most common problem with the london daygame model is the fake numbers and flaky numbers girls hand over. It made sense intuitively that the girl was shocked and kinda scared, so she handed over a fake number. Just to get rid of some random guy who showed zero social awareness by being so uncalibrated in a public street.
But it’s seems that I may only be partially correct…
I’ve always been puzzled and confused why a woman who’s walking down the street will start giggling when a fool jumps in front of her. To me, it seemed like she was scared and then handed over her contact information to some random yad stopper for no logical reason.
I discovered two interesting science articals
The Effects of Adrenaline on Arousal and Attraction read it here Quote : ”It was found that it is possible to manipulate emotions as well as stimulate emotional arousal between two couples that had already been together before the study was performed. The intensity of the rollercoaster ride combined with a small amount of fear produced the couple’s physical dependence on each other.”
The Effects of Competition and Physical Arousal on Attraction between Game Dyads read it here. This Journal of Undergraduate Psychological Research showed that competition can increase arousal.
How The London Daygame Model Works
After reading a multitude of scientific research articles in relatively high ranking journals, this is my opinion on how the london daygame model works.
It triggers a fight or flight response
When a man jumps in front of a woman in the street, she gets a shock, then that shock becomes fear, this causes a rush of adrenalin to pump through her veins. Strangely enough, the adrenalin causes a short term feeling of arousal in her body which makes her giggle and smile.
This causes her to give off short term signs that she is attracted to him. There have been copious amounts of times that I’ve tried to explain this to yad stoppers but they always argue that ”she’s attracted to me” and ”she was laughing and gave me her number” therefore these guys believe that the London Daygame Model actually works.
But…
What usually happens the next day, is that same girl realises that she was caught up in the moment and that guy clearly had zero social awareness. Then her natural response is to block him and simply ghost him.
I’ve followed up with guys many times to ask them if that same girl he yad stopped in front of me dated him. The most common thing that happens is that she replied a few times that day then disappeared the next day.
Obviously after all the initial shock induced adrenalin and arousal wears off.
The Daygame Blueprint
We should all know that canned lines don’t work, you don’t come prepared with a note book of canned lines to meet your friends, so why would this work with a girl you just met in the street. Sure, some structure is good and an overarching strategy to push things forward but using specific canned lines is only a recipe for disaster.
Here’s the most common canned structure I’ve seen and heard with my own eyes hundreds of times :
- Opener : ”Hey, I saw you from over there” (points over her shoulder) ”and I had to come over here to meet you”
- ”I didn’t scare you did I?”
- Direct Daygame : Tell her she’s hot and you are attracted to her (This makes you ”alpha” apparently)
- Don’t ask questions, only make guesses
- Fold your arms and look like you are judging her
- Nationality assumption stack ”You look russian”. Insert any nationality you like
- Education Assumption ”You look like an artist” Insert any education you like
- Investment : By this point she is supposed to be investing by asking you questions (This is where most LDM approaches fail)
- Either take her for an instant date or number close
Hopefully you can see the problem with this structure by now.
High Flake Rate and Fake Number Rate
This is the most common problem with every guy that I’ve met who uses the London Daygame Model. They receive a higher than normal flake rate and girls are constantly giving them fake numbers.
They are a nuisance to society
The reason they are such a problem and the rest of the pick up community should revolt against this strategy is how ridged this type of daygame is. When a guy who is putting in the effort and taking massive action while using The London Daygame model is having little success.
His ONLY solution is to increase the amount of approaches he’s doing.
This means that you simply have hundreds of yad stoppers spamming the streets in an uncalibrated way, annoying women and ultimately giving the entire pick up community a bad reputation. And it all goes back to the ridged nature of this model.
Increasing the amount of approaches is NEVER THE SOLUTION, yet this is what many kid coaches preach out there. And there reason why they preach this, is they don’t have a depth of knowledge of game that allows them to create novel solutions to the problems their students have.
Below is a rant I did when I first started my channel
I’ve created a facebook group called ”one mans life mission” where I have uploaded over 30 hrs of daygame infield breakdowns. Join here
What do you think about The London Daygame Model?
Here are some of my best posts:
- Cold approach is a lifestyle (My Philosphy)
- What is indirect daygame
- What I say to Girls (Logistics)
- How to Write a PickUp field report
- How to spot a fake dating coach
- How I got laid in Japan (epic post)
- Why Thailand is NO longer good for getting laid
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